Every Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation about something that matters, like today’s episode with Ted Chiang. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Transcripts of our episodes are made available as soon as possible. They are not fully edited for grammar or spelling. Click here for the episode page and Ezra’s thoughts on the interview. Click play below to listen to the e
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