← all episodes EPISODE 0054 - OCT 1, 2019 DHH and Jason Fried Open Source and Power with Matt Mullenweg with David Heinemeier Hansson and Matt Mullenweg Listen now Matt Mullenweg, the founding developer of WordPress and the founder of Automattic, joins Basecamp co-founder David Heinemeier Hansson for a spirited debate about tech monopolies, power in open-source communities, and how to be good stew
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