My idea of the perfect language would be something like any of the four following:1)Logo that concentrated on lisp tricks and didn't even HAVE turtle-graphics 2)Forth w/out all that OS STUFF, and stack STUFF. 3)lisp without so many parentheses 4)C without structured programming concepts Anyone got a good candidate? I'll even let you tell me how dumb I am for wanting what I want. It seems that the